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A Scanner Darkly

andyandy
edited September 2006 in General chat
Anyone seen this? Review please, otherwise i'll put my review up tomorrow.
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  • andyandy
    edited 1:01PM
    My review: Wilfully confusing with giant plot holes you could drive a truck through. Also, the animation effect made you sleepy in a slightly hypnotic way. Robert Downey Jr was good though.
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  • DavidDavid
    edited 1:01PM
    _"Wilfully confusing with giant plot holes"_ well, that is kind of what happens on acid.
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  • andyandy
    edited 1:01PM
    more like the staggering inconsistencies of the 'world' that was created. One where you can triangulate to a mobile phone, scan the face of the person talking on the phone and then id the person against a national face database. But in this world, you can't take a picture of a field. You'll have to see it to see what i mean, but the entire plot (such as there is one) turns on a glaring plot hole....you could have done it all with a spy satellite.
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  • DavidDavid
    edited 1:01PM
    obviously googlemaps didn't exist when it was written.
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  • LucyLucy
    edited 1:01PM
    I enjoyed it, but more for the effects and some of the acting, than the actual plot!
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  • andyandy
    edited 1:01PM
    In your heaviest Keanu Reeves surfer dude accent, say "the two halves of my brain..[insert unreasonably long pause here]..are competing?" and that's pretty much the movie.
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  • DavidDavid
    edited September 2006
    This is reminding how Andy seems to be extremely unforgiving of plot holes in English speaking films yet merrily embraces them in Asian movies like Japanese made [Casshern](http://www.gofishpictures.com/casshern/casshern_main.html). It didn't bother him a jot how the Neo-Sapiens were one minute crawling around barely alive in the snow then suddenly had a castle, cool clothes and armour and were building an army of robots to destroy mankind. Oh no. Look here: barely alive, arms sewn on, falling out of a pool of dismembered genetic sludge ![Burai1](http://www.stroudgreen.org/pics/burai1.jpg) Then next minute: cool red cloke, pretty sidekick and a throne ![Burai2](http://www.stroudgreen.org/pics/burai2.jpg)
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  • andyandy
    edited October 2006
    That was all perfectly justifiable. Without giving the plot away, they were all super-fast developers. Which is why they worked out they needed a robot army.
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  • LucyLucy
    edited 1:01PM
    have to agree with andy on this one. Casshern is a great film! It's just that I think there are certain things that you have to accept when watching manga style films. And plot inconsistencies is one of them!
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  • DavidDavid
    edited September 2006
    I love Casshern too. Possibly my favourite in the genre, but do you remember [Sky Captain & The World of Tomorrow](http://www.skycaptain.com/)? The same accepting attitude really should have applied as it was made with nearly all the same techniques and approached with an ethos of manga. _Oh No_. The plot-hole-scorn poured on it by Andy was quite something. If it had been anti-Jude Law vitriol I'd have totally understood though. Literally, if it had been in Japanese with subtitles, he would have been quite happy with the Adam & Eve plot, rather like he was with the neo-cell super-fast developers from Eurasian Sector 7. Come to think of it, Andy, I barely remember the plot of that film, so what was the hole in the plot I can't remember?
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  • andyandy
    edited 1:01PM
    If they needed two of every animal, why can you take humans a tube? If you can, why not take everything in a tube? Why did she take the tubes with her everywhere? Why does the sky captain's legendary army only have one plane? Why make aircraft carriers fly? When is it a good idea to open a room full of dynamite with a stick of dynamite? Sack of cack.
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  • DavidDavid
    edited September 2006
    That's all good and well. But you're missing my point. You seem to think stating because _"they were all super-fast developers"_ is ok, but not something like _"he's a one plane army"_. It's the selective suspension of belief I'm struggling with here. [Plot holes](http://www.moviemistakes.com/best_plothole.php) are everywhere.
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  • PetePete
    edited 1:01PM
    Ahem,
    I wouldn't say plot holes in the film, but a mis-highlighting of the important issues. The book makes a bigger deal about the rehab clinic and the goverment, about how they signed a non-intrusive contract to deal with addicts. This is only lightly implied within the first few minutes, and a bit easy to miss.
    Other mis-highlighting includes the zeitgiest du jour (yes, indeed) of surveilance, hence the casting of Winona Rider when everyone else was cast because of their drug habits.
    PKD thought that the past 2000 years was a creation of the devil and the year was closer to 200ad, and he knew this because three eyed aliens put an ancient satellite in orbit that sent him message via pink laser beams.
    He thought this because he managed to overdose on Vitamin C. So I can't imagine plot holes being the important thing, more paranoia, hypocrisy and attitude which the film kinda misses.

    And Casshern was pretty, but also does the kind of thing which must be normal in Asian films. Anyone seen the original Ring?
    "You see, I am also psychic"
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  • LucyLucy
    edited 1:01PM
    yup, i've seen the original ring - very scary. The problem with the Japanese horror films is that it's all suspense so once you've seen two or three it becomes slightly less scary!

    Glad to see you're hear Pete!
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  • PetePete
    edited 1:01PM
    I'm hear? Surely not.
    McFly!
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