@ Arky
It's either fewer seats, or less seating.
Got on at Pimlico and - low and behold - it was a new train. I wasn't paying attention, so only noticed because the doors made an unfamiliar beep. I got on right at the front, and there were a couple of 'spare' drivers in the carriage being trained.
Pros: 1) Much better lighting 2) More leg space in the aisle 3) More space in the standing area (due to slightly fewer seats and a thinner shell) 4) Digital displays 5) Enormous double-doors throughout - no single doors. 6) Much faster acceleration and breaking 7) Much, much quieter. Sounds more like the DLR.
Cons: 1) I reckon the seats are harder. I would have thought that in the last forty years we would have cracked a balanced combination of comfort and durability, but apparently not. 2) I should mention fewer seats, though I'd happily suffer a slightly reduced chance of a seat for more space in rush hour. Arky
Possibly. I'd say there are less 'pinch points' though, and the aisles are wider without being able to cram in two people where there was once one, so it should be a touch easier. Arky
Why not have a virtual view
http://londonist.com/2009/07/in_pictures_new_victoria_line_train.php
No, the seats are much more robust. Less forgiving on the arse-cheeks though.
Perhaps we should put together a collective letter on behalf of Stroudgreen.org? That might have more impact than an individual note(s). Unless there are any objections I will draft something for wider approval. Arky
Unless you change from the overland it would be hard to miss the old fellah with the peaked cap who 'looks after' the southbound platform most mornings. He stands between the rail and the track and greets everyone who arrives, gives excellent advice and amusing announcements, and as noted is also a mean whistler. Arky
Does anyone recall his name? If not I'll check tomorrow. A
Andy, as moderator perhaps you might confirm that you are happy for this to go out? Suggested amendments welcome. I have a contact at TFL who can probably find me the appropriate person to send it to. No hurry though, let’s give it a few days to see who might want to contribute.
Dear TFL
On behalf of StroudGreen.org* we would like to formally present our thanks and praise to [], who regularly supervises the southbound Victoria Line platform on weekday mornings. It has been noted by several contributors to the forum that []’s irrepressible cheer, unfailing supply of helpful advice, and vaudeville-standard tune-whistling greatly contribute to making our daily commute tolerable. Despite the unending army of miserable commuters, he always has a smile and a nod for those in his temporary care. He is a jewel in the crown of your staff, and should be rewarded accordingly. We hope that this declaration of our appreciation can be duly noted and passed on.
Yours sincerely
StroudGreen.org
*StroudGreen.org is a forum for residents of Stroud Green in North London, which lies between Finsbury Park and Crouch End.
@staplejack: where do you normally get the overland from?
@staplejack - why not get the W3? Unless you live on the ladder somewhere? Good point on the jewel-crown-staff thing though.
@staplejack: Fair enough. How much does it cost? I'm on MVR, and I was using it to get to High&I when I first moved but it seemed to be fleecing my pay-as-you-go something awful. As the W3 is covered by my zone 1-2 travelcard I decided I'd use that when the weather discourages walking. It's less rammed, and I get to see what's happening on SGR.
@Nick: A good conversation-starter is to ask him about the new trains. He gets visibly excited. A
He is a great bloke. I only started chatting to him recently, I am not a great man for mornings. I saw him say hello to a regular and I thought I'd like to be a regular too, makes it feel more pleasant. So I started breaking the ice with a nod, moved to a word and now we have a little chat every morning. I guess it shouldn't be remarkable but somehow it is. We should nominate him for a people's honour next time round. Public service should always be like that.
I have no idea what any of you are on about, but I'm happy for this to go out 'on behalf of' stroudgreen.org, since you all seem to be keen on it.
I'm not keen on a letter going out on behalf of stroudgreen.org, mainly because I don't thing it's the place to start campaigning/representing a collective view. I think the bloke is great, as I've said, but it doesn't seem right to me that the site takes a corporate view about anything. I'd be up for writing on my own behalf though.
@Ian: Surely a community forum is a great place to campaign, if there's interest in doing so? It's a great organising medium.
@staplejack: I was using it in January when the PAYG kicked in. Do you have a season ticket just for Harringey-Finsbury Park? How much is that if so?
Send it to the top man Howard Collins who is the Chief Operating Officer of LU http://www.linkedin.com/ppl/webprofile?vmi=&id=28093694&pvs=pp&authToken=TgmY&authType=name&locale=en_US&trk=ppro_viewmore&lnk=vw_pprofile
It seems that as he is senior he will be based at their office above St James Park Tube Station. I found that the address of this is
55 Broadway LONDON SW1H 0BD
I agree with Ian.
Given the apparent reluctance in some quarters to formulate an official SG.org response, I feel that staplejack's suggestion of a list of named individuals associated with SG.org would be best, but despite my long years on the interweb I think it would be a bit gimpy to use online nom-de-guerre's.
I suggest the following. Either: a) People whisper me their real names to add to it, and i'll dispatch it on Monday. b) If that gets little or no response (I am clearly a stalker of some kind who wants to track you down, after all) then I will notify you as such and people can give individual responses.
For the record, I thought that the earlier suggestion that SG.org could have some form of customer service awards was a good one, and would be an effective way of collectively giving back to the community. We could come up with categories, and have a vote. that idea will be kyboshed if some people insist that SG.org is not used for collective action, and personally I would take some convincing that that would not be a senseless shame. Arky
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