Museum of Guillaume Retz
  • Intriguing sounding venture spotted over the road from Tesco this afternoon. Just wiki'd him and he turns out to be a French animator. Can't wait to pop in tomorrow.
  • I spotted it today as well katiejane, I think they were opening up this afternoon. Looks like a very odd spot for a museum to a French Animator, next to Granny's...
  • This just popped up out of nowhere! What's going on???

  • according to Wikipedia

    After the war, Retz left France and settled in north London, England, where he died in 1962. He was filmed shortly before his death, which is the only surviving footage of him alive. Retz is rumoured to have died in Stroud Green, London, in 1962.

    A museum to Retz is due to open in early August 2010 in London and and a lost film of Retz's will be shown here exclusively

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_Retz

  • Sounds a bit like a fake though.

  • My money says it's this lot: http://www.1929.org.uk/

    19;29 are a theatre company who specialise in making work in undiscovered or under-explored spaces, interrogating the atmosphere and heritage of these spaces and creating performances in response to them.

  • http://www.retzmuseum.co.uk/

    The 19;29 logo is at the bottom of the website so they are involved.

  • Front of the shop/museum has something about a partnership between London Borough of Haringey and Pays De Loire, I think?
  • That wiki entry is up for deletion, as it apparently cannot be substantiated.

  • I think you have to make an appointment. I'm going to go maybe Friday.

  • The appointment-only thing is obscurely annoying - it seems to ruin the point of having it in such an unexpected place if shoppers can't just wander in to be beguiled.
  • I'd rather make an appointment to join the knitting club.
  • You're more than welcome to pop along tonight Tallboy, should I bring a spare pair of needles for you? You could knock yourself up one of these in no time at all:

    http://knitty.com/ISSUEsummer04/PATTthong.html

  • That's got to chafe!
  • we must have London's first pop-up Museum!
  • There was a pop up motor museum in the NCP in Soho recently but this one sounds more interesting.
  • The shutter was up today, but it's still not open. My gentleman friend who was going to come with me buffed up the felt on his top hat in readiness as well, just in case there was improvised nudity/audience participation.

    Hope it's open tomorrow. Good to be in at the fin de siecle.

  • As stated upthread, it is open by appointment only, or at least that's what it said on the door yesterday and the website today.
  • Has anyone actually been?

  • According to the woman running around advertising this 'museum' just prior to its sort-of-opening (appointment only seems a bit odd), they have the lease for a month; then it reverts to something else -- god knows what, this time....
  • apparently there's going to be some sort of opening tomorrow evening (thursday 28th). has anyone seen the animation by this guy? it's pretty cool...
  • What sort of opening? Will there be wine?
  • @ smog103 please can you post any vid links of his work? I know I know, wait and see at the musee itself, just thought I'd ask....

  • I don't know where granny's is but I do know that there have been plans to have a temporary gallery space on SGR for a while.

    The very nice woman who teaches crochet in Crouch End library was planning to exhibit in the window of ashop near Nando's.

    A nice connection to the knitting thread methinks!
  • I alsok mant to say, maybe they just have the window space too, nit the whole space.

    Has anyone managed to get in yet?!
  • I think the one with just window space is the one on the same block as Nando's, with just some black and white images and a slogan I can't remember because I haven't had any tea yet. The Museum definitely has a whole shop because you can see in; it is in the set back shops, across Upper Tollington from Nando's.
  • Near the best barbers in London. Smart Design
  • The 'museum' is in the bottom of Charter Court flats, next to the Caribbean takeaway, barbers and Doreen's Hair Fashions. I think it used to be an african/caribbean shop and I could never work out what it actually sold. The one Sara was talking about is down from Nando's near the laundrette but I think the photos have been taken down now.

  • It was open and there were people inside / outside the place when I walked past this evening ...
  • From discussions at the top of this thread, it sounds strongly to me as if this person doesn't exist and the whole enterprise is some sort of performance art/ spoof. @smog103, are you in on it?

  • Walked past this evening, a load of rude pretentious bell ends hanging around outside. Posh tramps basically, this museum has been funded by the tax payer and it is an absolute disgrace, I half hope the local kids smash fuck out of it.
  • @Memon74 - That's a pretty charmless post. Well done. Perhaps don't bother next time?

  • Oh shame I missed it last night, I would have gone in, if only to check out the posh tramps, and get a free drink.

    I wonder if it's going to be open to the public. It seems a shame if its not, and not in keeping with their remit of working in 'undiscovered or under-explored spaces ...... and creating performances in response to them'. Surely that would be proper performance art.

    I can't really blame Haringey for taking a risk with this sort of thing. At least the shop got cleaned and painted. It would have just been another scruffy empty shop sitting there otherwise.

  • It is open to the public - but the public have to make appointments. Which is perhaps not the best way of getting new audiences interested in art, but then I suppose it does reduce running costs if you don't need someone sat there all day on the off-chance of interested passers-by. Still, I'd have thought leaving it open for the whole of 1-2 days per week would be an acceptable compromise.
  • "Open to the Public, but the Public have to make Appointments".

    It's not a Doctor's Surgery or a Dentist is it ? It seems like they want to be more like some high brow Art Gallery than a genuine museum that is trying something different. Are they selling art ?
  • Lots of smaller museums are only open by appointment. Granted, I never get round to making an appointment either (I've been failing to go to the Pataphysical Museum for about four years now), but it doesn't in itself signify anything but a lack of money for full-time staffing.
  • Apologies for resuscitating an old thread (some will have been excited by the thought of a new thread with nearly 40 comments). But, this "museum" is still there and has clearly been around long enough not to be a joke. Has anyone actually been inside?

  • Should turn it into a wig shop
  • Lately the shutters seem to be down, even in the daytime - I'm not sure if that's just for security or means the project is defunct.
  • Wasn't it just something to do with the council and a bunch of art students to fill up the empty shop? The shop is, and has been throughout it's 'museum' phase listed as available on the council's property website.

    I remember passing by when the opening night was on and it was full of A level student types.

    Other than that, I've never actually seen anyone in there and I don't know anyone who's been.

  • After looking through the window, I'm not convinced that much more pleasure/culture/insight would be gained by walking through the doors and taking a closer look, should it ever be open.

    It looked a bit rubbish really.
  • It never is 'open' in the sense of being able to wander in - it's appointment only and always has been.
  • I know. My point is that I doubt it's worth the bother of making an appointment. Unfortunately.
  • The Museum's website

    (don't have the energy to read back and see if already it has been posted)
  • I am rather a fan of French animation and was influenced by the Red Ballon and The man who planted trees.I think I should visit the museum and then maybe suggest putting a blue plaque on his house. At last, a famous resident of Stroud Green, at least famous in Nantes!

  • As stated earlier most very small galleries are appointment only as the people who run them usually have day jobs. The gallery could be a labour of love and not set up to make money, although someone has sugested that some type of funding from Haringey might be involved. A lot of galleries in Hackney and in places like Berlin are just studios that open now and again to show work and the appointment requirement is just down to the fact that to have an unpaid person waiting around all day for a few people to wander in and out is unrealistic.
  • So how do I make an appointment?
  • You could try calling the telephone number on the website, mpc kindly posted the link just above.

  • I'm pretty sure there's now nothing in there.

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