I am glad I don't live opposite. Why don't you routinely call the Islington council noise control unit every time it happens. Give 'em a hard time. Probably a mobile telephone number you can call.

Initially I thought this place was an asset to SGR, but now I don't think I'll go there any more. Nasty. Real disrespect for the area. Get thy act together!

I had a big problem with extremely noisy elephants living upstairs in my last flat and had quite a lot of dealings with the noise abatement team.
You can wait up to two hours for them to come out on a Saturday, as you'd expect they are kept busy and apparently there are only half a dozen of the team on call for the whole borough.They'll need to come into your bedroom to measure the noise and they will only progress a complaint if the noise is loud where you sleep - not in the rest of your house. They were super efficient once they'd ascertained that the noise was anti social and they served the elephants with an ASBO and removed their tv and stereo!
I have angels that walk around on tiptoes living upstairs now, hurrah!

Misscara but for many nights after you promised to deal with it wasn't quiet. Big groups standing outside shouting at each other. I heard it. No lie. Most late night bars in London hire security to control people. I'm sorry to use that word but English drinkers need control late at night. I've lived on mainland Europe and late night drinkers are different but here they find a bar open and go crazy.

Thanks for taking in the tables but I get the impression you did this because of the complaints and knowledge that it's not so hot now. Deep in your heart you just want money and don't care about your the noise. You probably curse us! Your last comment here is not so friendly. The one before was patronising and superficial.

Please remember that many of us are nice people and haven't called officers. We'd prefer if you just take action yourself.

Yes, I agree, maybe finally they've got things under control.

Kreuzkav - what a strange edit. Perhaps the original post accusing Misscara of doing Sugar Lounge's PR and being generally obnoxious towards SugarLounge was a bit much...

Not guilty! My last ever public performance was 'English Civil War' during open mic night in The Shaftesbury circa 2007, that may or may not have been the same night as the Spiritus incident.

Yes N4Matt, I'd tend to agree.
I turned down a rather lovely flat on Landseer Road a couple of years ago for that very reason - too near the Landseer. It's a splendid drinking establishment but with outdoor seating which would quite naturally mean noisy summer evenings for local residents.

Thanks Emma for your understanding. Basically, I am quite poor. I'm on a low income (I work full time but earn very little) and after 3 years on a waiting list I was placed on Stroud Green Road. The flat has a cheap rent and warm. At first I hated it because of the buses but Chapter one just caused a bit of noise late at night on Friday or Saturday night. Nothing too big.

Then the smoking ban came in (2007). Things changed. Lots of people outside Chapter One. Lots of noise, in the Summer nearly every night but the Summers were n't so hot.

This Summer was hot in late June and July and people were left out late at night outside Sugar Lounge. Shouting etc. I'm not a fussy person but after months of this it does get annoying, even if you're a tolerant person. I'm just a bit mouthy too and like to see fairness.

I can't afford to move to a private rent flat as I'm a low earner and don't want to live in a shared house as I'm well into my 30s. I have considered it and even moving out of London because of the noise, even though I really like Stroud Green.

My other neighbours feel the same.

@kreuzkav I don't know how you stayed sane. Every time I've been in there the music has been too loud and the people too noisy.

I think it's important to realise that the people on a message board are not the problem, it's the Sugar Lounge, and (more importantly) there's nothing the people on this message board can actively do about the problem - you've been given shedloads of good advice about what to do to resolve the issue, but you only ever seem to complain on here. It's no wonder the sympathy has waned.

I agree Emma and thanks Jenowl for your lovely understanding. I do agree I've gone a bit crazy over it. For the moment, being winter things have calmed down and I've learnt to go to bed early if I'm not out as it gets very noisy after midnight. The owner and her crew have managed to stop people going out drinking and I'm grateful for that, although they don't always bring the tables in at 11 pm as promised but it's cold now and very few people want to hang out at night.

My big rants lately were about the drunk people who seem to be causing a lot of the noise after midnight esp. after 2 am and I think that doesn't include people on this board. They seem to be more civilized, but some of the people making all the noise seem like total idiots. Infact I think I like a lot of the board members. Misscara and Miss Annie seem like lovely people. ADGS seems like a very interesting individual, as well as a nice bloke. I think the owner of SL is quite nice too but naturally late night drinkers are great business for her and pays for the business. I think she'd prefer to keep it as a daytime evening venue with music, good food etc. but it's probably not enough to keep the business going.

I realise it's best to find other ways of dealing with if the noise gets out of hand again, especially when spring and summer come round. I just needed to let off some steam, but I realise it's alienating me from others on here and causing me extra stress.

That's a relief, the clientele might be more sedate than the idiots that often used to frequent Chapter One.

Wasn't someone saying a while back that back before it was the Noble or Big Fat Sofa, the Flag used to screen hardcore gay porn? So clearly it would be in keeping with the area's heritage.

Good luck with your venture!