Govia wins Thameslink Franchsie

edited May 2014 in Local discussion
They have made lots of promises including new Moorgate trains. Let see if they deliver. The privatisation of the railway has been far from successful. The taxpayer subsidies more now then when it was BR. The East Coast mainline is a great example of how an efficient nationalised railway can work. Shame that will be privatised. 

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  • I remain extremely sceptical. Bear in mind Govia are the same clowns that ran Thameslink before First Crapital Connect and were so bad they were excluded from rebidding for it in the round that saw FCC take over.<br><br>To be fair, FCC amazingly turned out to be even worse.<br><br>Barring renationalisation, which won't happen, the only solution I can see to this is all commuter lines to be handed over to their main City destination authority. ie the London commuter lines given to TFL.<br><br><br>
  • The Overground  is that  not happening with trains going into Liverpool Street with LS rebranded as an Overground Station
  • @Ali- yes, like so:<div><br></div><div><img src="http://www.stationmasterapp.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/OvergroundExtensionCMapCongestion.jpg"></div><div><br></div><div>Will be interesting to see what sort of station upgrades we see locally. And what the new train stock will be. I didn't think we would see new trains quite so soon.</div>
  • So is that the ones going up to Chingford and Cheshunt then?<br><br>Needs to go further out though. I'd like to see TFL, claim all commuter lines, ie Thameslink from Brighton to Bedford, the lines out to Southend etc.<br>
  • @PapaL - Yes.<br><br>Yours is a common view. There is a question of accountability – TfL is accountable to the Mayor, which leaves a question mark over how commuters from the shires would influence TfL policy. The fear is that inner suburban commuters would be prioritised over those coming from further away. The reality is that technical constraints mean that isn’t the threat that it seems to some, but try telling that to the Tory MPs in the south east who vetoed TfL taking over SouthEastern. As for north London, Watford remains an outlier at the moment – TfL was blocked from expanding to Hertford, etc. Hence the cut-offs at Chingford and Cheshunt. Were TfL to take over the Hertford Loop (from Moorgate) one day, it might well only control it as far as Gordon Hill.<br><br>I wrote an article about this last year if you want more detail: http://www.londonreconnections.com/2013/east-coast-mainline-routes-branches-part-2-hertford-loop-northern-city-line/<br>;
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  • <font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">If I understand correctly, in your youth the site would still have been a goods yard:</font><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><br></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/e/enfield/</font></div>;
  • Thanks Ben, interesting will have a read later.<br><br>Don't think there would be too many Thameslink commuters from St Albans, Harpenden etc. complaining about someone taking over who was vaguely competent and not driven by maximising returns to shareholders.<br><br>The latter bit being the fundamental problem with privatising commuter lines with captive audiences.<br><br>I can potentially understand the reluctance of some if they feared union action etc.<br>
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    <font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Q: From 2018, where will I be able to get to from Finsbury Park station?</font><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;">A: LOADS OF PLACES</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><br></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">http://thameslinkprogramme.co.uk/sites/all/files/article-pdf/Thameslink Core tph update_May14_v7.pdf&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;">- Brighton (via Gatwick!) being the most exciting of these.</div></div>
  • Don't forget Sutton and Wimbledon which are exciting places too for some people
  • Those places too.  It will be utterly bonkers.  It will mean that I see less of King's Cross though - I regularly change between StP and KX and will no longer have to.  But the joy of being able to go direct to Farringdon, City Thameslink, Blackfriars and London Bridge really can't be overestimated either.  It's going to have a big impact on the way a lot of people travel, especially if they include it on the tube map (which I reckon they will).
  • Great news, pleased to see the route map.  Do we know approx how many trains per hour for each route? 
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