SGR road closed under railway bridges

dion

should be fun for a couple of months<div><br></div><div>anyone know what they are doing?</div>

NorthNineteen

It's only 5 days isn't it?

dion

I thought it was until 15/03/2016 but I wasn't wearing glasses so maybe I have got that completely wrong

ShaunG

Yes I saw a date that was some way off, probably March as Dion says. Surely they can't start the FP stairway closures while this is happening?<br>

Papa

Sign definitely says until March - it could either cause chaos or no-one will notice because it takes such a phenomenally long time to get through that bit of road anyway.

Ali

<p>It seems to have not  been thought out.  There is the a blue  shutterred off area (which may be or may not be related to the work) which restricts  the space  to get through  to walk up/down the side of the pavement which is open.</p><p>There  are diggers there so I was wondering if this is prep work taking out one of the cycle  lanes before the Wells Terrace entrance  closure </p>

krappyrubsnif

They are digging up the road on the Islington side.......I think bridge works overhead have already been done. Would be nice if they did something to improve the lighting and lavatorial tiles, and put up a plaque to Joe Orton.

Arkady

TfL advised me that it's related to the piling and crane-installation works at NR platform level, which are necessary before lift-shaft excavation can commence. They need the area under the bridge for access.

Arkady

It's possible that the works on the tiling and cycle-path/footpath changes will happen at the same time.

NorthNineteen

We are on the edge of the impact areabut from Feb 1st there are major works at Archway gyratory <br><br>https://tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/improvements-and-projects/archway-gyratory<br><br>Which will end up looking like:<br><br><img src="https://tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/images/archway-public-realm_rdax_400x250.jpg"><br>

marko

The work so far seems to be reconstruction of the pavement (which formerly included a cycle lane) on the west side of SGR under the railway bridges, and rebuilding of storm drain chambers and grilles across the highway.  <div><br></div><div>Further up, outside Sainsbury's, there's complete reconstruction of the highway - including the removal of several decades of accumulated material, to be replaced with a new concrete base, and resetting of the curb-stones.  I suspect this is a for-taste of what we can expect for the rest of the road - it'll fix the long-standing problems with pot-holes and poor drainage under the bridges.</div><div><br></div><div>Haringay is also consulting on installation of double-yellow lines between the bus-station and the Morris Place on its side of the road (Islington has already done so).  No doubt to the annoyance of the mini-cab drivers who used to park there.  They've now resorted to parking illegally on Morris place.</div>

Ali

<p>The road under the bridges is being narrowed which is what  I assume is happening at Sainsbury's. Should stop the illegal parkers  outside that shop and theer will a good road surface for a change.</p><p> </p><p>I  wonder whwer the bricked up doorways go to at each end of the bridges  on the dise which is under construction?</p>

Arkady

If you mean where I think you mean then they used to be public toilets.

krappyrubsnif

Ah, the famous Joe Orton Toilets.

krappyrubsnif

If they are doing pavements and road surfaces, it's high time Islington sorted out the patch of pavement outside the Forchetta cafe near the SG traffic lights.   Whenever it rains you practically need waders to negotiate that section, it's always full of puddles.   A disgrace, and I don't use that word often.

markpack

@krappyrubsnit I think Islington Council has promised me they'll fix that bit after the umpteenth time I raised it. It seems to good too be true... but it's there in black and white in an email saying it'll be scheduled for the 2016-17 financial year.

kreuzkav

My uncle who died last year and had a terrible phobia of the old FP toilets being homophobic told me of the spy-holes bored in the side of cubicles.  Different times when gay men were more aggressive about their needs.  Chariots gay sauna and cruise bars were thin or non-existent then.  

miss annie

There have always been plenty of molly houses and cottages in London, I imagine they were few and far between outside cities before the 60s though.

Papa

What an absolute shambles the station is at the moment.<div><br></div><div>I had the misfortune to come through there yesterday evening at 6pm and thought the carnage getting off the northbound tube and being sent up the spiral staircase was bad enough...</div><div><br></div><div>But little did I know about the bridge.</div><div><br></div><div>It is funnelling people down a narrow pavement and then into a bizarre one person-wide pinchpoint between a metal fence and a wooden hoarding. I am amazed that in these days of health and safety and risk assessments, they've been allowed to do that.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Who on earth has put these clowns to work?</div>

fabruce

Papa L i totally agree.<div>That passage under the bridge is so dangerous with stressed people pushing non stop to get through. Unbelievable.</div><div>What is wrong with these people? Why did they decide to make people go through such a narrow and dangerous passage?</div><div>Unbelievable...</div>

Arkady

There does seem to have been very little co-ordination between the Council(s) and TfL/Network Rail. Having both works going on simultaneously is making it a dreadful commuter experience. I'm relying on Harringay Station at the moment, but that's not a useful option for most StroudGreeners.

Papa

If what's going on at the station was an event / private business etc they'd be shut down and someone would probably try to fine them for endangering public safety.

NorthNineteen

Had one experience trying to get through and vowed never again, will walk back through the station if need be or just ensure I'm at the back of the train.  If anyone is passing through tweet a picture to Islington Tribune.<br>

Papa

I would do that but don;t use a travelcard. You can't get back through the tube station if you use pay as you go or contactless without ending up getting ripped off surely?<div><br></div>

NorthNineteen

Yes it may muck up the charging doing that.<br><br>You could always go back down the spiral staircase onto the southbound platforms... Bit of a faff but I think between 5.30-7pm it would still be quicker; took me over 5 minutes to get through that gap by the bridge.<br><br>Or just wait for the queues to did down when you exit the train and go to the very back to exit the stairs normally.<br>

krappyrubsnif

I have avoided all this so I may have misunderstood. But surely the way to go is to turn right out of the front of the station and walk up Fonthill Road (stopping for a pint at the WB Yeats on the way)?

Papa

Taking the long way round and enjoying life, nice idea Krappy.<div><br></div><div>NN, can you get up those steps at the back though? They had police and station staff blocking the set I saw?</div><div><br></div><div>My wife did the double spiral staircase trick yesterday - I had actually suggested somehow getting to the southbound platforms and leaving that way to her. </div><div><br></div><div>I, on the other hand, stuffed up my own plan, crossed to the northbound Piccadilly and then ended up going up the spiral staircase and under nightmare bridge.</div>

NorthNineteen

I normally exit via the stairs at the back (I get on at the back where I can) - I reckon if you were to crossed over from the Vic to Pic (N/B) it would make it look you hadn't just got off the train which may help.... Where are they blocking people - just after the spiral staircase?  What if you come down the spiral staircase and want to board the train from the back?<br>

Papa

They were blocking the entrance to the stairs in the middle, does that make sense?

NorthNineteen

Yeah that does, that's the entrance that is closed isn't it?<br>

verga

<span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">It's only 5 days isn't it?</span>