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    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2008
     

    did we get a stroud green baby at the weekend?

    • CommentAuthorgeoff
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2008
     

    Not from us.

    Poxy was still posting over the weekend so unless he is extremely dedicated and up there with technology, I doubt it.

    Ours is due on Thursday...

    • CommentAuthorPoxy
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2008
     
    Not here either. Ours was due at the weekend. However, I think he took one peek at the snow and decided to stay where he is until the weather improves.
    • CommentAuthorGiles
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2008
     
    The first one is normally last - two weeks of hot curries and going on the swings for Mrs Poxy coming up.
    • CommentAuthormatt
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2008 edited
     

    I can recommend some good curry houses

    Giles: last = late? a Freudian slip?

    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2008
     
    Mmmmm - I'm off to JK tonight - that reminded me!
    • CommentAuthordominic
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2008
     
    Katiejane, have you got something to tell us?
    • CommentAuthorGiles
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2008
     
    I did mean late - and the last one was late but not the last, that'll be the one that's due in September ( or more likely October )
    • CommentAuthorgeoff
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2008
     

    We went to Red Rose Tandoori on Holloway Road last time - a madras and a couple of cobra worked a treat.

    • CommentAuthorgeoff
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2008
     

    @Poxy - you around? or gone in already?

    might be in ourselves tomorrow morning sometime...

    • CommentAuthorGiles
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2008
     
    I love the flyers from the Red Rose - Red Rose Tandoori as recommended by The Darkness, Ann Widecombe, Anthony Worrall Thompson and the Whittington midwives...
    • CommentAuthorgeoff
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2008
     

    Hooray!

    A baby girl!

    We got to the Whittington at 6am, baby arrived at 6.45am. Just got home.

    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2008
     
    Congratulations! Right on cue
    • CommentAuthordominic
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2008
     
    Wahoo! Well done to you. Oh, and the mum I suppose.
    • CommentAuthorLiz
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2008
     

    geoff, did you ring your family before or after your post?!

    • CommentAuthorgeoff
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2008
     

    I did get to my family first; unfortunately the Whittington doesn't have wifi.

    The midwives were good and tried hard to get us home the same day.

    I can sense a lot more early morning comments from me over the next few months...

    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2008
     
    Fantastic news geoff - big congratulations to you and mrs geoff! Of course you did all the hard work ; )
    • CommentAuthorPoxy
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2008
     
    Congratulations to Geoff and family.

    No progress here. it would appear that Pixy (do you see what I've done there?) is a tad shy.
    • CommentAuthormatt
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2008
     

    Happy Babies to you all

    • CommentAuthorPoxy
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2008
     
    Arthur Alexander entered this world thirty minutes into yesterday. Eight days late but we shall love him all the more as a result.

    Some of the more connected of you folk may find a photo on a certain flickr.com website.

    Of course, I think he's beautiful. Mother is doing well also.
    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2008
     
    Arthur Alexander Poxy. A lovely name. Congratulations. We should set up a "who has the best baby" poll.
    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2008
     
    Cool name! Congratulations to you both! Sounds like Arthur could be a potential suitor for our Elsie when he's a bit older!
    • CommentAuthordominic
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2008
     
    Arthur? Elsie? What is this, 1874?
    • CommentAuthorgeoff
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2008
     

    Yes, names have gone retro. We get them by looking up where we live on the census websites, and then calling them after people who used to live in our houses.

    Our new one is called Esme Rose.

    I think they are all better than dominic, if that is your real name.

    @Poxy - how did you manage to get a photo up so quickly? Don't you have anything else to do?

    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2008
     
    Great name, Esme, because it's one of my favourite Salinger stories (for esme, with love and squalor)
    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2008
     
    If there has to be a trend, retro names aren't so bad. It's better than that craze for stupid things like Fifi Trixibelle, Peaches or Pixie.

    Or God forbid, Heavenly Hirrani Tiger Lily.
  1.  
    Ooh, I Iove old-fashioned names. Esme is particularly good. I'm a total Salinger geek... er... I mean fan. I actually wrote an essay on that story when I was in school. And I have a character called "Esme" in one of my own (vastly inferior) works.

    Congratulations to the parents!
    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2008
     
    I have similar feelings about Salinger - though i think franny and zooey is my favourite. This should probably be another thread.
    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2008
     
    • CommentAuthordominic
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2008
     
    @geoff - you're absolutely right.
    • CommentAuthorhooofck
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2008
     
    Congratulations to Poxy and geoff - good names for both too.

    We have a our first, a boy, expected on May 11th.
    • CommentAuthorkrazykappa
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2008
     
    Congratulations on the new arrivals!
    • CommentAuthorIan
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2008
     
    I will add my congratulations folks. Good news all round.

    Need children to work for the economy to fund my old age. Just don't bring them into the Noble until they stop screaming.
    • CommentAuthorgeoff
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2008
     

    Now that pubs are smoke free it is a more socially acceptable to take babies in.

    I will bring mine along soon and we will play spot the cowering, cringing, uncomfortable Ian in the corner.

    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2008 edited
     
    We came to the conclusion that its just fine with babies in the evening, but not particularly fun for parents and other punters alike when they start running around. Same with restaurants.

    The Dairy seems to have it sussed, yes to kids, but only up to 6.30pm.
    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2008 edited
     
    Couldn't agree less. The smoking ban doesn't even come into it. Adults should get to go to decent pubs and restaurants undisturbed at any time of day or night. Parents should relocate to the local Harvester and accept their lifestyle choice with dignity.
    • CommentAuthordominic
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2008
     
    Where is the local harvester?
    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2008 edited
     

    Southgate for the Harvester, Redbridge for a Beefeater.

    Unfortunately further away than I had hoped reasonable. They'll just have to move out, it happens after a year or two anyway. Or here's a thought, get a babysitter and enjoy the local with the Adults.

    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2008
     
    @ David - let us know next time you're up the Noble or Dairy - I'll stuff the kids with sugar and bring them over.
    • CommentAuthorgeoff
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2008
     

    Hear hear. I will bring mine and will stuff myself with sugar too - I am not much better than them nowadays.

    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     

    This is actually an ace idea. Flashmobbing David with under tens. I love it.

    Next time we're in the Noble I'll post a thread here - it'll have to be short as I'll be on my phone, so it'll say "KIDS 2NBL NOW!!" then I'll make my excuses and leave him to it.

    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008 edited
     

    You know, cycling home the other day I was lined up at a set of lights with three or four other cyclists and this mother started crossing the road in front of us, calling her kid who was in tow just behind. "Come on Rupert" she called then flashed all the cyclists this gushing God isn't he just so gorgeous type look. She seriously thought we were all looking at her child and not the traffic lights further afield. Lights turn green, little Rupert still making little baby steps across the road. Mother still looking at us gushing and proud.

    Get your brat out the f*cking road, the lights are green you stupid mare.

    Such an unfortunate trend in modern Britain, whatever happened to seen and not heard? If parents had a single ounce of awareness that not everyone loves their sugar fuelled mini-me's like they do I probably wouldn't mind them in pubs as they'd be controlled.

    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     
    I know. Women can vote as well. It's been a disgraceful experiment.
    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     
    @ David - you free for babysitting tomorrow night?
    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     

    I'm not sure what's worse, having a Manchester United fan as a member or the site turning into a creche.

    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     
    @ andy - can we turn the site into a creche?
    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008 edited
     

    @ Andy - Can we start again? www.childfreestroudgreen.org is free to register, then again so is www.childfreelondon.org. Ah, I've gone all misty-eyed at the thought. www.blametheparents.org is also free.

    • CommentAuthorColette
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     

    I'm starting to think David and I are related. Have you got any French blood in you? or family in Stoke on Trent? (it's a glamorous combo)

    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     
    don't know why you're looking at me. do what you want. it's been a very long week and i intend to end it with some low dosage alcohol poisoning over the course of the next few hours.

    and i've been thinking about toast (see my new toast thread for more on this)
    • CommentAuthorIan
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     
    I'm from Stoke on Trent. And I started the no kids in the noble screaming bit of this conversation. We could well be related.
    • CommentAuthordominic
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     
    @David - who is the manyoo fan?
    • CommentAuthorColette
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     

    @Ian - do you like dogs? and arsenal (or port vale - if you say stoke city then we're fundamentally incompatible and I'm also scared of you)? and bicycles?

    • CommentAuthorIan
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2008
     
    I hate Stoke City, and their fans. Vale and Crewe were the teams from home. No particular views on dogs or bicycles although I draw the line at the former riding the latter. I'm a virgo and there is nothing I like better than red wine and a dvd. Is this now a dating site?
    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2008 edited
     

    @ Dominic - apologies, obviously I meant Ronaldo fan, we know whats on your bedroom walls, although that spelling of Mancester United is a little worrying.

    @ Colette - no, the family tree all comes from Docklands/Eastend/East of that, with a minor blip from Grimbsy. Dogs, Arsenal and bicycles are all up there with JK's stuffed parathas.

    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2008
     

    Am I the only one that double takes whenever I read JK, thinking it means JK Rowling?

    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2008 edited
     

    Anyone else bothered that JK Rowling is infinately more successful than Salinger?

    I blame the parents. They give it to their kids and read it at the same time. Sick.

    • CommentAuthordominic
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2008
     
    @Tosscat, do they have interweb where you are?
    @David, I would, but the wife prefers David Seaman.
    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2008
     
    @ David - spoken without any hint of irony whatsoever. I can only summise that you really are as cumudgeonly as they say.

    Personally I don't care for either Salinger or Rowling. However as a parent I would very much like my children to 1) be able to read and 2) grow up with a passion for books and literature, and I don't give a stuff how they get there.

    As far as getting children and adults to pick up a book, I think you've got to hand it to JK Rowling.

    There - spleen duly vented - ready now for the next round of defending myself for (goddamit) choosing to have kids.

    btw - you thought about contributing to the phone-ins on Five Live of a morning??
    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2008 edited
     

    I'll try to suppress my distaste of kids with overindulgent parents. And JK Rowling. But you have to understand they really are red rags to a bull.

    I tried to read a Potter book once - orphaned by someone at work - to try and understand the appeal. Order of the Pheonix, I got about five pages in and gave up. I know you're meant to give these things a better go than that but I felt quite nauseous, like I'd just cheered on Robby Keane or something.

    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2008 edited
     

    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2008
     

    "Yet in the Potter books, the costs and limits are too often arbitrary. A patronus charm, for example, is awfully difficult - until Rowling wants a stirring scene in which Harry pulls together an intrepid band of students to Fight the Power, whereupon it becomes simple enough to be taught by an inexperienced fifteen year old."

    This is in the Guardian. I agree with the sentiment that Potter is just shit, but what is it doing in the Guardian? When I was a kid Mr Benn was all the rage but wasn't dissected in the broadsheets. I think this overlap into the adult muggles realm is what upsets me most. The literary equivalent of taking those kids into the pub. It's not the kids nor Rowlings fault. It's what the parents are doing with it that sends me into a frenzy.

    I'll stop now. Spleen duly vented, as the non-curmudgeonly say.

    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2008
     
    Now I was much more of a Bod girl myself, especially the bit where the frog conductor has to choose which flavour milkshake.

    Fab 70s kids programmes aside (and I know you're not serious in comparing it with Mr Benn) surely what you're talking about here is literature which appeals to both adults and kids. Like Catcher in the Rye, To Kill a Mockingbird or A Kestrel for a Knave. Pretty sure those books were reviewed alongside the 'adult' fiction in the day. I think it's great that there's overlap - even better if both parties enjoy it and - hell - it opens up a dialogue and channel for developing literary criticism between parents and teenagers.

    Now - I need to go and read a bedtime story to my son, while you David, I'm sure, have got more pressing matters, which may or may not involve Arsenal paraphanalia...
    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2008
     
    @ David - and if you're genuinely concerned about a blurring of the lines between childhood and adulthood, then maybe you should leave the video gaming to the kids.
    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2008
     

    Can't argue about the video gaming. Perhaps its my age and seeing friends around me change in attitude while I'm not, or why I have to witness this great channel opened up between parent and teenager.

    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2008
     

    @ katiejane

    A kestral for a knave? for the masses surely Kes?

    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2008
     

    @ david - everything´s dissected nowerdays (sp Colette?). It´s to take our mind off the torture.

    @ katiejane - strawberry

    @ dominic - uhuh

    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2008
     
    @ tosscat - the film was called Kes.
    • CommentAuthorColette
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2008
     

    @tosscat - nowadays.