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    There will be a major feature, on the cover of the Times Magazine, about Stroud Green Road this Saturday (July 19).

    I wrote it. I'm not announcing this to blow my own trumpet, but because I've lived in this area for around 20 years, and I was really pleased to find this website, and so many other enthusiasts when I was researching it. And I am hoping that the people who use this site will get a kick out of seeing the story of their high street in a national newspaper.

    I've always been deeply impressed by the mulitcultural nature of the area, how so many different nationalities are able to live alongside each other and get along. Ethnic ghettos, on the other hand, really depress me. Stroud Green Road is the embodiment of mulitcultural London.

    So I interviewed 10 people who live and work on the road, all of them immigrants, all of them different nationalities, and wrote down their stories. It's accompanied by some brilliant portraits taken by Muir Vidler – really a world class photographer.

    I hope you'll go out and buy the Times on Saturday, and have a good wallow in the joy of being a Finsbury Parker. For a weekend at least, it will surely be the coolest, trendiest place to live in Britain, so make the most of it...

    Thanks, by the way, to whoever it was suggested Ho Chi Minh might have lived on Stroud Green Road. I can't help feeling this might be bogus, but I repeated the notion in the article, and I expect it's going to stick now...

    Hedgetrimmer
    • CommentAuthorPhil
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     

    This has excited me so much I'm going to have to pop out to Stroud Green Road right now and sit outside with a drink ... Um ... which means Wetherspoons because Chapter One doesn't open til 5 now. Hey-ho.

    Thanks, hedge strimmer.

    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     

    BUT IT'S A SECRET! THAT's THE WHOLE POINT!

    (on the other hand...is there any way we can get a link here from the times site)

    • CommentAuthorjandb
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     

    Expect open-topped tourist buses from Crouch End.

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    I am going to offer my services as a SG Blue Guide
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    Dying to know who you are, Hedgetrimmer.
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    Just a fellow battling the forces of nature, winos and slappable schoolkids to keep his privet tidy, Krappy
    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     

    You've kinda blown your anonimity so I think you should fess up.

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    Can we organise a signing at the Faltering Fullback?
    • CommentAuthorAli
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     
    Ho Chi Min stayed in Ferme Park Rd, the MySpace site nicked that and used a bit of artistic licence !
    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     

    I'm sorry to rain on everyone's SG love-in parade, but isn't HT just hawking a newspaper?

    Poor old lizziej

    • CommentAuthorAgaton Sax
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     
    Apparently Gollum from Lord of the Rings lives in Crouch End, but no one ever recognises him
    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008 edited
     

    Andy Serkis (sp) - a Peter Jackson fave - was also King Kong.

    • CommentAuthorgeoff
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     

    @ hedgetrimmer - are you the elephant man?

    • CommentAuthorBridget
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     
    Thanks for letting us know, I have just emailed a load of friends about it and will tell the neighbours.

    Looking forward to seeing it!
    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     

    Hello, I'm new, buy my thing and I'll never be on here again.

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    Tosscat you are a cynical one. I could weep. Just trying to spread a little FP cheer is all (but yes, I'll obviously be made for life on the back of the dozen extra sales on Saturday).
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    Thank you for the heads up on it HT, i will be sneaking a peek at it at the inlaws this weekend.
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    Thanks Toddlesocks.
    I've had a few drinks, so I'll probably regret this in the morning, but I have to be tiresomely sincere now.
    As a fellow who bleeds Finsbury Park every time he is upended by one of the many pitbull turds on my street, all I know is that if someone else had written this story, I'd be mad keen to see it – I just imagined people getting wise to it a couple of weeks after it had come out, and being disappointed because they couldn't get hold of a copy of it. Outrageously, journalists don't actually get royalties for their articles. The sum of my weeks of hard work compiling this piece now belongs to The Times. So it benefits me nothing at all by alerting you all to it.
    What would benefit me immeasurably would be if Tosscat could be banned from buying it, reading it, smelling it, or even being allowed to wipe his arse on it.
    I hope everyone else enjoys it. It was an eye-opening experience for me to meet some of the amazing people who live on Stroud Green Road, and I'd like to think some of that will filter through to the people who read the magazine, too. Even those who do wipe their arses on it.
    • CommentAuthorgeoff
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     

    Hedgetrimmer - But more importantly, is your hedge the shape of an elephant?

    There was a big thread on this recently after the Evening Standard Homes & Property article.

    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008 edited
     

    HT, a precedent was set - I don't make the rules.

    Of course you will benefit, maybe not directly, but you will benefit in the long run if there is an upsurge in sales/interested people writing in - I'm sure lizziej wouldn't have benefitted from filling her focus group directly, but if she consistently filled them then it would reflect on her. We're all in sales in the end.

    I am interested in the article. If you don't want me to read it then that's your choice - do you just want me to leave the money somewhere for you?

    I am cynical when it comes to things like this, if you'd even joined and said hello in the new members bit first you may have looked a bit more genuine.

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    Let's all turn on Tosscat. Tosscat, how can thee be so ungrateful, after this noble heir to Johannes Gutenberg and Julie Burchill has toiled long and hard in the dusty halls of his trade to produce this article...and probably for little more recompense than the price of a dozen pints of London Pride.

    I bet you couldn't do it. You'd give up after the first interview and turn in an a thousand words of meaningless, florid, cynical claptrap with far too many adjectives. Personally, I'm looking forward to Hedgetrimmer's words.
    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     

    Do I use too many lovely adjectives?

    • CommentAuthorjandb
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     

    You can't beat a bit of good old fashioned cynicism.

    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     

    @tosscat - who died and made you moderator?

    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    @ hedgetrimmer - looking forward to it. Thanks for letting us know. I like Saturday's magazine in the Times.

    While we're on the subject, does anyone else think the Observer's gone down hill recently? The magazine's diabolical since Barbara Ellen moved over to the main section. As for the feature on Sophie Conran's kitchen last week - aaargh!
    • CommentAuthorColette
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    Well i'm looking forward to the article, and I don't tend to buy the Times, so thanks for letting us know, hedgetrimmer. Ignore that Tosscat, seems he likes to cultivate a certain angry man image at times...
    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     

    @ andrew - you did for a bit - where have you been?

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    Dang it, I do regret my last comments now – sorry if I came across like a surly teenager. No doubt I should have said hello first, but I've been so excited about this I just had to dive straight in with my news…
    Anyways I'm cycling off to The Times in Wapping now to pick up some early editions of the magazine. Can't wait to see it myself. And to hand out copies to those who so kindly took part. I think they were all a bit bemused when I first wandered into their shops back in the spring and tried to explain what I was doing. It'll be great for them to see that indulging me was – hopefully – worth their time.
    The elephant hedge is truly one of the wonders of the world. It crossed my mind to attempt a unicorn or a turtle on my last trim, but I found I could barely manage a straight line. In fact I couldn't even do that. The elephant man is up there with Michelangelo in my books.
    I'm not sure about the Observer magazine going downhill, don't see it often enough. But it's generally better than the Times mag...
    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008 edited
     

    Will someone tell me who is featured please; I'm not allowed to look at it myself.

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    Mr Patel, Mr Haji, Mr Doudrich, Mr Andronicou, Ms Durham, Mr Cihat, Mr Chen, Ms Lamprea, Mr Mosteanu and Mr Shah
    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     

    Thank you for that.

    • CommentAuthorPhil
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     

    Mr. Patel wouldn't need a copy, would he, him being a newsagent and all ... except he's not anymore, is he. He gone... I did bump into him in Crouch End the other week, however, and he's enjoying his retirement.

    Unless, of course, you mean another Mr. Patel?

    • CommentAuthorAli
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    Stroud Green Road was in the Observer magazine years ago in the form of The White Lion of Mortimer. It was in about 1998/9. It was when the pub was number 7 in the Weatherspoons chain and it was completely novel to have no music, no smoking areas. It was in the equivalent to a style section and had photos on the big round table that used to be there under the skylight part of the pub. It was all about this being the future of pubs etc.

    It also ran an article about Ferme Parks Sales being the future of Estate Agencies. I guess not may of you will remember them but the owner ended up in jail for swindling old ladies on property redevelopment scams. It is quite exciting that we in the Times and I am expecting many phone calls over the weekend .. Did you se the article … etc.

    The two single things that changed the “SGR “ High Street” was Weatherspoons and La Porcheta taking the risk to open up,. The rest just followed
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    Hedgetrimmer, are you in fact a female with the initials CS? In that case, I know who you are.
    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     

    CARLY SIMON?

    • CommentAuthorAgaton Sax
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    Tomorrow's fish 'n' chip paper, Hedgetrimmer, tomorrow's fish 'n' chip paper. Well, Sunday's. May I suggest Tollington's?
    • CommentAuthorkatiejane
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    If only! AS - when was the last time you had chips? 1983?
    • CommentAuthorAgaton Sax
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    It's still open, isn't it?
    • CommentAuthorAgaton Sax
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    I've been away for 3 weeks, and Stroud Green seems to have changed beyond recognition in my absence. New Old Diary, a new 'Hot Deli' section in Tesco...
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    One of my friends is Jo Jones, fashion editor of the Observer Magazine. I'm going to get her to do a shoot and write up on Londons hottest spot right now. Thanks Hedgetrimmer for putting this area on the map - surely the only follow up is to show how trendy the locals are. Give it a few weeks and Hoxton will be full of hair weave shops, wig merchants and nail shops. Forget bo-ho, it's gonna be RAP & YAP - joggers, weave and pitbull!
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    Mr Patel is Mr Patel of Nuchem (tho he did used to be a newsagent).
    How I mourn for the days when The White Lion was a truly fine pub, before its hideous makeover, full of nooks and crannys and genuinely patronised by the whole community – old men, students, poor people, black people, and middle-class tossers like me. The whole shebang.
    I am not a woman. Half man, half hedge-trimmer.
    Tomorrow's news, I prefer to imagine, Aggers, will be the day after tomorrow's laminated placemat.
    I've seen a copy of the finished product now – indeed, there are a few on the streets already (well, SGR anyway). It''s not bad, even if I do say so myself. Pity about the poor paper quality and the missing full stop, but it could have been worse…
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    Laminated place mats?

    Let's aim higher. Stroud Green - the book - the film - the musical?

    Appropriate titles, please.
    • CommentAuthorGlyn
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    The Book - "By Finsbury Park Station I Sat Down And Wept (because there were no W3s)

    The Film - "Pak to the Future"

    The Musical - "The Sound Of Petek"
    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     

    Last X-shit to Brooklyn

    Mystic Pizza P

    How to Get Ahead in Advertising (for free on SG.org)

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    Hang it all, I've got to go away for the weekend – helping Mrs Hedgetrimmer overcome her fear of flying. I hope tomorrow brings you joy.
    And I leave you with a strange anecdote. I couldn't find one of my leather slip-on shoes this evening, which I put on when I go down to the bottom of the garden for a fag. I looked everywhere, and was completely bamboozled. I've just found it, down at the bottom of the garden, and it has a few tiny teethmarks in it. I can only assume that a cat, or a squirrel, or a fox, popped into our living room when we weren't looking, assumed the shoe would make a tasty snack, and made off with it… I've found squirrel footprints on my (dusty) video recorder before, but I reckon this is far more audacious.
    Any similar incidents of crafty Finsbury Park critters out there?
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    @hedgetrimmer

    A fox used to come in through the catflap and steal Birkenstocks to chew.
    Perhaps that's your culprit?

    I like your article. It reassures me that I don't imagine these things.
    I think it's important to tell middle England that the "clash of civilisations" is a load of bollocks.
    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2008
     

    As much a 'load of bollocks' as 'middle England' maybe?

    Or do you mean Leicester?

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    No, I don't mean Leicester.
    I mean the broad, complacent constituency of Times, Telegraph and Mail readers.
    • CommentAuthordominic
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2008
     
    Here it is. Tim is outed. Slightly tatty indeed.

    Wonder why it's in the women's section?
    • CommentAuthorGlyn
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2008
     
    X-It man is in it :)

    (Puts on tin hat and waits for scream from flat across the road)
    • CommentAuthorColette
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2008
     
    The local newsagent has run out of copies of The Times.
    • CommentAuthorGlyn
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2008
     
    There were only two copies left when I picked mine up on Ferme Park Road.

    At the risk of sounding like a big girls' blouse, I thought it was an extremely heartwarming piece and timely given the agenda of other newspapers who would apparently like everyone to be at each others' throats and living in fear.

    Also a reminder that 99% of people get on and that its the 1% of maniacs who spoil it for everyone else.

    Hats off to HT.
    • CommentAuthorjandb
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2008
     

    The nice man in the Ferme Park Road post office was sold out. Apparently they sold like hot cakes.

    • CommentAuthorMills
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2008
     
    Slightly tatty!? Pah. Marvellous article and I'm glad you got the lovely guy from the pharmacy. He's such a sweetie.

    I do think Ravi from Jacks Off Licence would have been a good one though - wiith his 'security' the elderly Caribbean chap and his shelf stacker from Sri Lanka. I was in there the other day when they were having a great argument about cricket.
    • CommentAuthorAgaton Sax
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    I'd have liked to see the Man in the Hat who ran the late Chrysos Hardware. There's also an interesting Indian chap who runs one of the launderettes on SGR, who talks about the Ramayana everytime I go in. And that curmudgeonly old Scottish loon who's always in the Mind shop, although he doesn't work there. Anyone else?
    • CommentAuthormatt
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     

    Is this article online anywhere? Or does anybody have any scans.

    Have been away, so couldn't buy it!

    • CommentAuthorJoeV
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/the_way_we_live/article4330585.ece


    Slide show accompanies the article
    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     

    Lizziej's focus group plug got treated as spam because it was not only commercial but crucially had nothing to do with Stroud Green whatsoever. It may change in the future but right now we don't have a fixed view about commercial posts and will treat each on its own merits. I suspect Tosscat is just being contrary again (yawn) but thought I'd clear up where we stand on that.

    Personally I was grateful for the heads up by HedgeTrimmer and enjoyed seeing my new plant in the Times Magazine. And if there's something going on in our local park, commerical or not, there's room for that on here too.

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    Nice to have so many positive comments.
    Even though I'm a newcomer and as such my opinions carry no weight at all, I have to agree with David re arguably commercial posts, such as the exercise classes in the park. If such information is of benefit to the people who use this site – Mrs Hedgetrimmer was intrigued by it – then surely that's the whole point.
    @ Mills I did approach Ravi at Jack's, but he was a bit suspicious, and I soon found I had a surfeit of Indians to take part. But really I could have done twice as many people. My big regret is not having been able to interview the Finnish woman who ran the bakery next to Nando's. Also the Somali guy – Nazir – in the internet cafe next to Tesco. Expect he'd have a tale to tell.
    There's a nail parlour – not Hard as Nailz, I think – run by a Vietnamese chap, staffed by Asian women. Would be interested to know if anyone on this site has patronised it. He virtually marched me out of the shop when I asked to interview him – got the impression, perhaps unfairly, that he has something to hide...
    • CommentAuthorBridget
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    I went and had my feet done in there the other day - seemed fine. Very strange. I used to go to a Vietnamese nailbar in Stamford Hill and the guy who runs it there is a character - saying very strange dark things and talking about how they are asked for protection money all the time...

    Those nailbars are great for a brutal pedicure.

    Hedgetrimmer thanks for the article - I thought it was great and agree there are loads of people to talk to with interesting stories. But you have to draw the line somewhere. The photography was fantastic and made the florist look much nicer that it actually is.

    Also, I love to hear about all kinds of stuff in the area - commercial too - I would have been up for the Finsbury Park classes last year when I was cash rich and pre child. They have to get customers and publicity, nothing wrong with that and working in PR I know how difficult it is. I think the outdoor gym thing is a great idea and like to see new companies getting support.

    I find the attitude of some people on here a bit negative and bullying - but then maybe it leads to more discussion!

    Thanks.
    • CommentAuthorhooofck
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    I grabbed a copy on Saturday morning and really enjoyed the article - what fascinating backgrounds some of those people have - thanks a lot for letting us know.
    • CommentAuthorandy
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     

    Just to say, I completely agree with David.

    I'd say it was like a noticeboard in a coffeeshop - the test isn't whether it's 'for profit' or not - it's whether its interesting or not. Personally, I think stuff like the Times article or the Gym notice are spot on and thank those people for posting them.

    The infamous 'lizziej' post appeared on a bunch of other forums at the same time and wasn't relevant at all.

    But it's not like there's a handbook.

    • CommentAuthordominic
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    I want a handbook.
    • CommentAuthormatt
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2008
     

    JoeV, thanks

    • CommentAuthormatt
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2008 edited
     

    hedgetrimmer "It's accompanied by some brilliant portraits taken by Muir Vidler – really a world class photographer."

    Great article, really made me feel emotion having dealt with a lot of the people featured. And I have to agree, they are wonderful portraits (notice how the guy in the background on this one looks like the guy painted on the blackboard? spooky)

    edit: and amazing to see that Linton Kwesi Johnson hangs around here

    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2008
     

    Ok, so much against the authors wishes I read it.

    Why's it in the women's section on the website?

    • CommentAuthordominic
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2008
     
    @Matt - I posted the URL AGES ago . Sheez.
    @tosscat - I made that comment AGES ago. Sheez
    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2008
     

    Oh yeah - pearoast!

    • CommentAuthortosscat
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2008
     

    Sheez man, I'm Dominic.

    • CommentAuthormatt
    • CommentTimeJul 24th 2008
     

    Sorry Dom, I haven't read the whole thread - bad of me I know!

    • CommentAuthorMills
    • CommentTimeJul 24th 2008
     
    Me and Mrs Poxy get our nails done at United nails.
    • CommentAuthordonnaw
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2008
     
    Been away on holiday so only just saw this thread.
    Thank you Hedgetrimmer for alerting me to the article. I enjoyed it a lot.