Haringey Labour Mayor Sheila Peacock guilty of abusing position ‘for personal advantage’

Arkady · May 2014

<div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;">*sigh*</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><br></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">http://www.hamhighbroadway.co.uk/news/haringey_mayor_sheila_peacock_guilty_of_abusing_position_for_personal_advantage_1_3583445</font></div>;

Sutent · May 2014

She should be punished severely. The rules are clear. Unfortunately we are faced with people in power continually abusing their position. They are all at at it no matter what party. The MP expenses scandal was a complete farce. But within the rules we see George Osbrone brother in law heading up the equity company involved in buying Royal Mail shares, BskyB and Jeremy *unt, and the Tories who are on the board of the health companies who are tendering for NHS services. Why do we as public accept this sort of complete crap?

graeme · May 2014

We have a mayor?!<br>

miss annie · May 2014

All London boroughs do.

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Ali · May 2014

<P>Very Negative <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Campaigning.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">What was done is wrong and the person has been punished and left the Labour Party.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Getting your wife to take speeding points is wrong and has been punished and he was a Government Minister.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">How about keeping to the poistive stuff, the changes you going to make to the quality peoples lives etc, how the dustbin service will improve, how the schools will be improved, how children services will be improved to avod teh failures of the past</SPAN></P>

Arkady · May 2014

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi">Not entirely unfair. Thing is, we hark on about our manifesto and policies all the time, and those polices usually seem pretty popular. In my experience, though, is that floating voters are most convinced by arguments pointing out just how terrible the current Council and its occupants are (i.e., the worst in London), and how rewarding failure is always a bad thing.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi">Also, Haringey Labour barely campaign about local issues at all, let alone in a positive way. All they talk about is how terrible the government is, and how everything bad in the world is the fault of the Coalition. For instance their latest leaflet is essentially ‘vote for Labour to save the NHS’. Given how little influence local government has over NHS policy this is frankly deliberately misleading. In the Lib Dem manifesto we say only that we will fight for fairer funding for the NHS – just as Lynne Featherstone has done so successfully with education funding in the borough.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi">There you go, nice double-punch of positive and negative campaigning!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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Arkady · May 2014

Far from insulting. It's just the strongest and most obvious argument. It's the one that persuaded me to get back into party politics. And it's the reason that so many non-Lib Dems vote Lib Dem.

dion · May 2014

I hate the lib dems but still vote for them. Ben is right

Idoru · May 2014

I'm with Misscara. I'm quite capable of seeing what's wrong with the present incumbents. What I want to know is how any potentials are going to make it better. And empty promises aren't enough. I want evidence and facts. I really want to know *how* it's going to be done.

miss annie · May 2014

I'm not a child owner, car owner or home owner. I don't have an extravangantly well paid job but I am very happy with the frequency of rubbish collection in my street. Go on, sell me a local party chaps...

Ali · May 2014

<P>Rubbish collection has defintly improved after the Councils suppliers got over the teething probelms with taking over a new Contract. I guess some possible evidence of that is that I haven't seen a "pointy finger grim faced LibDem photo of some rubbish for quite a while although I am sure one will pop up shortly</P> <P> </P> <P>On the Mayor "grand scandle" it is a shame we don't know what actual letters were written and have their been criminal charges brought over it ? She did get kicked out of Labour and is standing as an independant. </P> <P> Imagin if she held the balance of power after the council election.</P> <P>Would the Lib Dems do a deal to get into power ? They have form on this </P>

JoeV · May 2014

<div>Ditto to what Miss Annie said. Plus given that I came to the UK relatively recently as an adult, without the usual cultural connotations of what the parties here mean to most people who are native. </div>

Arkady · May 2014

<div>@Ali - What do you mean by 'do a deal to get into power'? At national level it's crucial to form a stable majority, by coalition if necessary, and for all parties to negotiate as much influence for those that voted for you as possible. True in all democracies, just not that well understood in this one where we are used to parties only getting 1/3 of the vote but still achieving a majority. (Don't forget either that in 2010 a Lib-Lab coalition would still have been 15-seats short of a majority, and that scores of Labour grandees vocally opposed such a deal in favour of a period of opposition - this tend to be ignored by Labourites who would rather blame the Lib Dems than, you know, the electorate.</div><div><br></div><div>At Council level this tends not to happen, instead you get 'no overall control' and the largest party forms the administration and has to rely on the support of other parties to get polices through ad hoc. In Haringey there are only Labour and Lib Dem councillors (with a few independents due to losing/resigning from the whip) and unless that changes it's not too likely an outcome.</div><div><br></div>

miss annie · May 2014

So both of you are more interested in squabbling with each other than engaging with voters? Disappointing.

Arkady · May 2014

It's important to correct misunderstandings, no? And a question was asked - I answered it!<div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I'm disappointed for you that the Tollington candidates aren't engaging with voters here.</span></div>

graeme · May 2014

@Miss Annie, being also in the same demographic as you, it's become clear that political parties are not interested in targetting our votes as they have very little to sell to us directly. <br><br>While parents may be interested in school places, or car owners in CPZs, we don't really have any specific needs that are outwith the needs of the other demographics (e.g. better local economy, improved public spaces). <br><br>The reality is political parties require tax payer's money to function in power (the LibDem party isn't paying for any of the policies on their 6-point plan out their own coffers, for example). To get that in perpetuity, they need a supply of workers, and only parents are able to supply that future workforce.<br><br>Why try to engage with a demographic who offer nothing but short-term £. Better to get a family on the books, who will vote the same way for generations.

Arkady · May 2014

I don’t have kids or a car either, nor do I own my own home. So I guess I’m in your demographic too.<br>Improving the local economy and improving local public spaces are (along with improving local rail services) my biggest interests. They are why I find myself standing for election.<br>

Ali · May 2014

<P>I think that SG is probbaly a "safe" LibDem area so the other parties may be targetting wards they need to defend or think they can gain there is also a week to go so lots of stuff will come through the door.</P> <P>The result in 2010 was </P> <P>Labour won 34 seats, the Liberal Democrats 23.</P> <P>The nice envelopes the LibDems use are nice and be reused which is handy</P>

Arkady · May 2014

Top: Current ward control (Harringay ward is 2 Lib Dem 1 Labour)<div>Below: Wards currently targeted by different parties<br><div><br></div><div><img src="http://www.hamhighbroadway.co.uk/polopoly_fs/1.3373774.1393608299!/image/1688936205.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/1688936205.jpg"></div><div><br></div></div>

Arkady · May 2014

The railway line in also the electoral front-line!

NorthNineteen · May 2014

Labour aren't targetting Crouch End and Alexandra? Gut feel suggests it is going to be really close in Stroud Green ward, I think Lib Dem will just nudge it but I would not be surprised to see Lib Dems lose all their councillors in Hornsey and Stroud Green wards.<br>

Sutent · May 2014

I voted by post last night. Richard in tollington has been very helpful. I really like him.

Arkady · May 2014

Here's the equivalent map for Islington from the 2010 locals - no idea who is targeting who this time.<div><br></div><div>(Hillrise ward is the top-right one, with one Lab, one Lib Dem, and one independent councillor. Tollington Ward below that, and Finsbury Park below that - all Lab)<br><div><br></div><div><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Islington_UK_local_election_2010_map.svg"><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div>

Ali · May 2014

Love the top picture Harrigey Ward really is the ladder!

Arkady · May 2014

This might help:<div><br></div><div><img src="http://www.icag.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/GIS_ward_boundaries_map-300-dpi.png"></div>

markpack · May 2014

@Ali Re "<span style="font-family: 'lucida grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 20.799999237060547px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On the Mayor "grand scandle" it is a shame we don't know what actual letters were written and have their been criminal charges brought over it ? She did get kicked out of Labour and is standing as an independant" - I think you're mixing up two cases here. The Labour Mayor was reselected by Labour and is standing again for the party. The person kicked out and standing as an independent is the Labour councillor who was done for false accusations of racism (and not to be confused with the one convicted for lying to the police who isn't standing at all...!).</span>

Idoru · May 2014

For those feeling like they're unrepresented/unimportant to the various parties, I'm sure there must be issues close to your hearts for which you could find out what the parties' policies are. <div><br></div><div>There was a lot of strong feeling about cutting trees down, so maybe take a look at different parties'/counsellers' policies and past actions on wildlife. Lynn Featherstone voted in favour of the Badger cull, for example. Lots of people here cycle, so which counsellers are supporting the Space for Cycling campaign? </div>

Arkady · May 2014

All three Lib Dem councillors signed up for the space for Cycling Campaign - very good it is too.<div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">We're also committing to increase the number of trees across the borough, by specific support for local community groups (good to get stakeholders in this sort of thing rather than just try to do it entirely top-down) and to promote micro-parks (like the new SG square idea).</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">(It's the local elections, so I'm not at risk of having power over badgers).</span></div>

Ali · May 2014

<P>Mark,</P> <P>Thanks for the correction I must have read the newspaper to quickly. I guess the level of punishment should fit the crime but we don't really know the level of the crime</P>

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