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Rage Against The Machine - Finsbury Park
So I'm guessing no-one on here got tickets in the lottery?
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Later, I heard people using VPNs got straight through, though I don't know why that would work.
What time is it kicking off, and what time does it finish? I haven't got tickets so want to avoid the area like the plague.
Gates open at 2, RATM are on at 8.50. 10.30 close if you're interested.
They seem to have suspended parking around the SGR/clifton terrace area.
DOORS OPEN 2.00
GALLOWS 5.20
ROOTS MANUVA 6.30
GOGOL BORDELLO 7.35
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE 8.50
CURFEW 10.30 :o)
Because my son switched his music off?
Plain clothes and sniffer dogs everywhere.
Quiescent crowd.
Helicopters driving me nuts too...
The crowd seemed extremely good natured and I certainly didn't detect any bad vibes.
I really don't understand why the police felt they needed two helicopters. This is likely to piss off far more local as they can be heard for a huge area. In light of the enormous cost of keeping them up there, I really do wonder how the police can justify the money.
@andy: The oxford rd. gate was very much open when I left through it at about 10.30. Surprisingly little hassle getting out.
I suspect the crowd was way less trouble than the average Arsenal match.
RATM were ok, too, I guess. We left halfway through their set. It was just too depressing to watch middle-aged, middle-class men trying to relive their awkward teenage years by chanting idiotic slogans while shoving anyone within arm's reach. It's fine when you're a spotty 14-year-old, but when you're 40, it's just sad.
I like a good mosh pit as much as the next gal, but the people last night had no clue what they were doing. Running around in a circle while randomly pushing and hitting people is not moshing, you idiots.
Half of the crowd were wearing t-shirts that they bought at the gig. That pretty much says it all.
I didn't really see the police doing anything. We did get approached by a man with a dog on the way in (unaesthetic always gets approached). The guys with the dogs weren't wearing proper uniforms. Why not? Who exactly are they?
At around 9.30pm, a bunch of people broke through the fence on the Manor House side. A little later, more people broke in through the main entrance. Security weren't doing much to stop them. By that point, a lot of people were leaving, anyway.
Friends who live over South Tottenham and Stokey way tell me that the gig was very much audible over that side.
I don't understand what you mean by :
'Half of the crowd were wearing t-shirts that they bought at the gig. That pretty much says it all.'
Does this say that they were fans by any chance?!
Gogol Bordello were amazing. And Rage were brilliant- if you left before their cover of White Riot then shame on you!
There was definitely enough space for those who broke through the fence so it seems a bit rich to go to a RATM gig, turn your nose up the mosh pit and then shake your finger at people "fucking the system" so to speak by breaking into a spacious, free, outdoor event.
Sounds like you had no place there and deprived someone else of a ticket they would have really wanted.
Perhaps stick to the Old Dairy next time.
Getting home took a while, considering I live about 3 mins away. It was rather strange to see thousands of people shuffling down Seven Sisters and SGR
And I like mosh pits. But these people had no clue about basic moshing etiquette. My guess is that they didn't get to go to many gigs when they were younger.
Do I really need to explain the t-shirt thing? OK, here goes:
It's generally frowned upon to buy a shirt at the gig and put it on straight away. You can often judge a crowd based on the proportion wearing shirts bought at the gig.
For example, when you go to a Carter USM gig, you'll see lots of 40-something guys wearing old 30-Something shirts. They're old skool fans, and they're proud of it. They wouldn't be caught dead buying a new shirt and putting it on straight away.
The best crowds are the ones where no one is wearing a shirt with the band that's playing. They wear shirts with other bands on them, or whatever else they want. They don't feel the need to show that they're fans by dressing from the merchandise stall.
The worst crowds are the ones who buy and put on the t-shirts straight away. They're least likely to follow simple etiquette and most likely to be annoying twats.
This is pretty basic stuff. Unless, of course, you were one of the people sporting a brand new RATM shirt...
Really? I completely disagree. Can't stand snobbish attitudes like this. Should we all just feign indifference and pretend not to be bothered?
Most the people i saw with new Rage t-shirts were pretty young, not 40 somethings. Can't really begrudge them for being toddlers when 'Killing In The Name Of' first came out. What's to say they won't be wearing the very same T-shirt in 10 years time? Also, wearing the t-shirt is one way of not losing it in the mosh pit!
The tickets were a bit of a lottery, it was a broad cross section of people which i think is good. I'm not a huge fan by any means, but i had a really good time. That's much more important than what people were wearing.
Incidentally neither me or Georgie own a brand new Rage Factor T-Shirt!
Nice bullet points from andy though.