5th November

edited October 2010 in Local discussion
Anyone know of any local fireworks displays in place of Ally Pally?
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  • edited 4:19PM
    There will be a big fireworks display at Victoria Park on Sunday 7th November. The little single decker 236 bus from FP (Station Place) will take you there. <http://www.timeout.com/london/aroundtown/features/3746/Best_London_Fireworks_2010.html>;
  • edited 4:19PM
    Is Ally Pally cancelled????? I heard this, but thought it was a dreadful rumour, a bit like the millenium bug!
  • edited 4:19PM
    apparently so. it's such a shame. I heard St Aidan's school were doing a small display but can't find any info about this online...
  • edited 4:19PM
    It's very sad, I loved going there for the fireworks and beer festival (although I drank wine instead obviously). The pub crawl back from Ally Pally afterwards was always epic too.
  • AliAli
    edited 4:19PM
    I wonder if there will be any public Christmas Trees and lights this year ?
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    They go absolutely crazy in Fonthill Road - blue lights (weird) everywhere. I believe that the local traders pay for them and, as the shops there are always rammed, they should be safe. The company that I work for specialises in Christmas displays and it's manic here, so there should be plenty of lights and sparkle about town.
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  • edited 4:19PM
    Any update on local displays?

    My kids go to St Aidan's and this year they have sold tickets in advance and all are gone (350) total, and so many of the pupil's didn't get any, so if nothing else comes up, we'll be watching from the street outside the school.
  • edited 4:19PM
    What time and day is the St Aidans display. Wouldn't mind watching from the street.
  • AliAli
    edited 4:19PM
    I believe this has been cancelled again this year.
  • edited 4:19PM
    It hasn't been cancelled as it was never due to happen.
  • edited 4:19PM
    A wonderful insight into Ali’s mindset though. I hear the Lib Dems have cancelled the visit of Halley’s Comet this year too.
  • edited September 2011
    Where's today's post about the cutting of that regional firestations project? Oh, a £0.5Billion f*ck-up on the previous gubbmint's watch? That must be why the display has been canned. Or something.
  • AliAli
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    Pure innocence on my behalf ! What on the earth do the LibDems have to do with Halleys Comet or this, I don’t really know ? To clarify mindsets for Arkady. I had been reading at lunch time that Southwark wants to dispense with the traditional name of bonfire night to call its display "The Colour Thief: A Winter Extravaganza Celebrating The Changing Of The Seasons". So I think I wonder what is going on at Ally Pally this year. Quick Google gets you this <http://www.londonevents2011.com/alexandra-palace-fireworks-2011.html>; As this is a quote for the benefit of Miss Annie next time I will use quotes “Cancelled” I not completely sure if I have ever blamed anything very much on the LibDems but I certainly do know that the LibCons are still blaming a lot of things on the last Government even though they have been in power for nearly 17 months. They have been in the driving seat with economic policy all that time, the effects of which we are now beginning to reap the harvest of. I guess I am one of the 43% of LibDems voters who have defected since the last election and may not come back. Unless something changes I would guess that the LibDems will need “not much more than a mini bus to drive it’s MPs around in” after the next election. That is a real shame as the LibDems could have used their positional power much better while in Government. Things may/will recover a bit so I guess we will see.
  • edited 4:19PM
    It’s been said here before, but I’ll bite again as I’m bored The current economic maelstrom was triggered by the enormous irresponsibility of the financial sector, who had been allowed to be so irresponsible by ever-more-lax regulation in New York and Washington. I have no doubt that this laxity would have been worse under the Tories. The Lib Dems, at least, can claim to have called throughout for this laxity to stop, and continue to press for national and international reform of the financial sector (in the face of resistance from Osborne). In the almost unthinkable scenario that there had been a majority Lib Dem government in charge during the last decade or two perhaps they would have sold out to the financial sector too, we don’t know. Given that the economic problems that we face are primarily global, that no Western country is seeing significant growth, and that we are on the edge of an aftershock crises within a free-trade area of which we are a part, it is no surprise that we are not seeing substantial growth less than a year and a half after the coalition came to power. The idea that it could be otherwise, or that you can claim to know that some form of Keynesianism would have made everything OK (as opposed to causing us to have our credit rating downgraded) is simply false. You don’t know. Moreover, no-one knows for sure. For all anyone does know the current economic policy could be absolutely perfect for Britain, but being completely undermined by problems elsewhere in the global economy.
  • edited 4:19PM
    Completely agree - though at times it seems that the current government thinks that if they blame the entire global economic crisis on Labour, then it'll become true (joke). And probably there's enough people out there who believe that the government's speaking the truth - worrying.

    As for "we are not seeing substantial growth", that'd be because stimulating growth - essential to economic recovery - hasn't featured much in this govt's economic recovery plans. But of course they know best.... (another joke).
  • AliAli
    edited 4:19PM
    This really has gone of subject !
  • edited 4:19PM
    Problem is that the usual Keynesian tools for stimulating growth are looking pretty dubious right now. They involve spending money (which we don’t have), risking having our credit rating downgraded (which would further reduce our supply of funds), and relying on a stable banking system (which again we don’t have). Several economists have made this point – Keynes never faced or wrote about a situation in which all of these problems were true at the same time. We’re on our own, in the dark, praying. No-one knows best. All governments emphasise the failures of the previous government. But Brown and his allies certainly did free The City to behave the way it did (though, credit where it’s due, his intervention may have been crucial in stopping the whole caboodle falling over during the first crisis). If the Eurozone doesn’t federate soon and fix the Euro then… well no-one can imagine the consequences of that, either.
  • AliAli
    edited 4:19PM
    I think the main difference in the approach by Darling would have been to not take so much demand out of the economy through such a large VAT increase (for little gain in revenue). You can see the affect locally in the venues around SGR. I think I have noticed that places are less busy during the week and also get quieter as the month goes on until next pay day. I also suspect that Labour would not have hit benefits on the vulnerable quite so much. Everyone seems to forget that the UK debt is much longer term and is not being cycled every few months which is the case with Greece. I agree with Arkady in that the Euro needs to federate and be making economic transfers to the poorer fringes. Those transfers kind of already exist with regional funds etc. It looks like the German electorate will not be too keen on this.
  • Quite possibly won't compete with Ally Pally display, but we (The Stapleton) will be having a small fireworks display from our roof for Guy Fawkes night.
  • edited 4:19PM
    Hooray! Please could you make it a little bit later. I was working on Saturday and a lot of the fun was over by the time I got there. Still a lovely evening though - did you do the pass the parcel and magic?
  • edited 4:19PM
    @Arkady - what about quantitative easing as a neo-Keynesian tool?
  • edited 4:19PM
    Quantative easing? Neo-Keynesian tools? This is supposed to be a thread about pretty sparkly things!
  • edited 4:19PM
    Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain
  • edited 4:19PM
    I've been to the Vicky Park display before and it's usually pretty good.
  • edited 4:19PM
    Nothing at Victoria Park this year. I had a look on an events website and it seems that there are no public fireworks displays in North London, but tons in the south. Battersea, Blackheath, Clapham, Crystal Palace, Fulham, Hammersmith, Streatham and Wimbledon all have big, public displays on. I'm curious as to why this is.
  • edited 4:19PM
    Me too - it seems highly unfair. There is only one in East London too. Looks like the south is the place to go on bonfire night!
  • edited 4:19PM
    Go to the Mount View Road reservoir and watch them going off all over London - it's ace.
  • edited 4:19PM
    It's to distract [South London](http://zombiedefense.blogspot.com/2007/07/sky-flowers.html) from their plight.
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